Discussion:
Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Bob Warriner
2005-06-19 19:15:47 UTC
Permalink
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob




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F15839
2005-06-20 08:35:29 UTC
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Savez vous si IP1Kc à le drivers pour le convertisseur db9/usb intégré ?



Merci





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Bob Warriner
Envoyé : dimanche 19 juin 2005 21:16
À : PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org
Objet : [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000



Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob





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robtmc91320
2005-06-20 14:26:40 UTC
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Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line checkers, that
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course they no
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the issue
was with DTS, CTS and all that.

Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity, this
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working,
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Tod Sudmeier
2005-06-20 14:37:47 UTC
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I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to scan. It has
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly how I had the
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both worked. But
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the results.

Tod R. Sudmeier

Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
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robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
To: PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000

Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line checkers, that
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course they no
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the issue
was with DTS, CTS and all that.

Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity, this
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working,
Yahoo! Groups Links








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Bob Warriner
2005-06-21 16:12:21 UTC
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Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
Here are some of the changes I had to make to my null modem cable:
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
Post by Tod Sudmeier
I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to
scan. It has
Post by Tod Sudmeier
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly how I had the
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both worked. But
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the results.
Tod R. Sudmeier
Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of
Post by Tod Sudmeier
robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line checkers, that
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course
they no
Post by Tod Sudmeier
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the issue
was with DTS, CTS and all that.
Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity, this
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working,
Yahoo! Groups Links
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F15839
2005-06-22 11:35:33 UTC
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Hello Bob !

Happy for you! I have a tungsten E in USB port.

Do you think that to use a converter RS232/USB would function with 1PKC?



Fab



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Envoyé : mardi 21 juin 2005 18:12
À : PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org
Objet : [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000



Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
Here are some of the changes I had to make to my null modem cable:
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
Post by Tod Sudmeier
I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to
scan. It has
Post by Tod Sudmeier
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly how I had the
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both worked. But
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the results.
Tod R. Sudmeier
Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of
Post by Tod Sudmeier
robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line checkers, that
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course
they no
Post by Tod Sudmeier
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the issue
was with DTS, CTS and all that.
Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity, this
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working,
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Bob Warriner
2005-06-22 12:45:47 UTC
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Hi Fab, I can't be sure that would work, you need a USB to RS232, I
don't think I have ever seen one, plenty the other way around of
course.
I am working on getting a Palm m130 to work with IP1kC software,
that has a USB output from the cradle, the same as yours, I am
modifying the cradle to bring out a serial lead as well as the USB
so that I can plug it into the PCR1000 via a modified null modem
adapter, I will post my results soon.
Rgds Bob
Post by F15839
Hello Bob !
Happy for you! I have a tungsten E in USB port.
Do you think that to use a converter RS232/USB would function with 1PKC?
Fab
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Post by F15839
Bob Warriner
Envoyé : mardi 21 juin 2005 18:12
Objet : [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you
also
Post by F15839
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of
null
Post by F15839
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were
using
Post by F15839
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any
info
Post by F15839
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
Post by Tod Sudmeier
I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to
scan. It has
Post by Tod Sudmeier
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly
how
Post by F15839
I had the
Post by Tod Sudmeier
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both
worked. But
Post by Tod Sudmeier
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the
results.
Post by F15839
Post by Tod Sudmeier
Tod R. Sudmeier
Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
-----Original Message-----
On
Post by F15839
Behalf Of
Post by Tod Sudmeier
robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line
checkers,
Post by F15839
that
Post by Tod Sudmeier
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course
they no
Post by Tod Sudmeier
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the
issue
Post by Tod Sudmeier
was with DTS, CTS and all that.
Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity,
this
Post by Tod Sudmeier
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it
working,
Post by F15839
Post by Tod Sudmeier
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robtmc91320
2005-06-22 18:54:13 UTC
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Great info, now I know what to do and look for. For a Palm IIIxe to
serial adapter I have been trying a Delorme cable that may well not
have the full serial line complement. Getting a regular synch cable
is the first order of business, and then make up the custom null
adapter.

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
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Tom Ziko
2005-06-24 01:37:06 UTC
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Hi Bob,

I am going to give that a try with my Palm M505 to see if I can get it to
communicate with my PCR1000. I have tried the usual Null Modem adapter on a
DB9 serial cable with no success. I even tried it without the Null Modem
adapter, what the heck! I will let everyone know if it works.

Tom
Tallahassee, FL.

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From: "Bob Warriner" <Bob-2jGL8Z9G74ulfX6TRuFcWb0Ud+***@public.gmane.org>
To: <PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
Post by Tod Sudmeier
I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to
scan. It has
Post by Tod Sudmeier
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly how
I had the
Post by Tod Sudmeier
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both
worked. But
Post by Tod Sudmeier
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the results.
Tod R. Sudmeier
Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of
Post by Tod Sudmeier
robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line checkers,
that
Post by Tod Sudmeier
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course
they no
Post by Tod Sudmeier
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the
issue
Post by Tod Sudmeier
was with DTS, CTS and all that.
Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity,
this
Post by Tod Sudmeier
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working,
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Bob Warriner
2005-06-24 05:22:59 UTC
Permalink
Hi Tom, yes, have a go, it is well worth the effort.
I can't be sure whether or not it will work on your model of Palm,
as the author only seems to have tested the software on a PCR1000
and PCR 100 using a Palm3C and an IBM Workpad3C, but I can guarantee
that it works very well on my Palm3C using OS 4.1, the Palm3C is a
few years old now, but is still my favorite, please let us know if
you succeed with your model.
Rgds Bob
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Hi Bob,
I am going to give that a try with my Palm M505 to see if I can get it to
communicate with my PCR1000. I have tried the usual Null Modem
adapter on a
Post by Thomas McDaniel
DB9 serial cable with no success. I even tried it without the Null Modem
adapter, what the heck! I will let everyone know if it works.
Tom
Tallahassee, FL.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including
scanning)
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Post by Bob Warriner
on a Palm 3C.
Here are some of the changes I had to make to my null modem
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
Post by Tod Sudmeier
I did get mine to control the radio but could never get it to
scan. It has
Post by Tod Sudmeier
been a while since I played with it. I don't remember exactly how
I had the
Post by Tod Sudmeier
cables connected. I did use a Palm III and I used my M130. Both
worked. But
Post by Tod Sudmeier
neither would scan. I will try again and let you know the
results.
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Post by Bob Warriner
Post by Tod Sudmeier
Tod R. Sudmeier
Never forget 9-11-01
343 Brothers Gave All on that day
-----Original Message-----
On
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Post by Bob Warriner
Behalf Of
Post by Tod Sudmeier
robtmc91320
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Went to Radio Schlock to pick up one of those RS232 line
checkers,
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Post by Bob Warriner
that
Post by Tod Sudmeier
has the LEDs for all the lines to show activity, but of course
they no
Post by Tod Sudmeier
longer carry the thing...........That could have shown what the
issue
Post by Tod Sudmeier
was with DTS, CTS and all that.
Emailing JJ in Tokyo is a waste of time, he never answers. Pity,
this
Post by Tod Sudmeier
does look like the perfect PDA program for control.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it
working,
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Post by Bob Warriner
Post by Tod Sudmeier
Yahoo! Groups Links
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robtmc91320
2005-07-03 23:11:26 UTC
Permalink
Well, I checked the Radio Shlock null modem adapter, and it does have
RTS/CTS (7/8) and DTR/DSR (4/6) crossed over. Rx/Tx are as well of
course. Other than the setup Bob has below, Pin 1, DCD, is also tied
to pin 4, DTR. Still not working with a hot synch cable.

Anyone else have luck?

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which are
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
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Bob Warriner
2005-07-04 05:10:07 UTC
Permalink
Hi Bob, the only difference that I can see is the fact that the cable I made
up doesn't have pin 1 and 4 tied together, and that configuration works fine
for the Palm 3C, I still haven't managed to get the Palm M130 to work with
this set-up, which is a bit of a puzzle, but I am still working on that when
time allows.
Can you describe exactly what happens with your set-up? at what point does
it fail and what error messages do you receive.
Rgds Bob
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Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:11 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by robtmc91320
Well, I checked the Radio Shlock null modem adapter, and it does have
RTS/CTS (7/8) and DTR/DSR (4/6) crossed over. Rx/Tx are as well of
course. Other than the setup Bob has below, Pin 1, DCD, is also tied
to pin 4, DTR. Still not working with a hot synch cable.
Anyone else have luck?
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Tod and the group, I am pleased to say that I have succeeded in
getting the IP1kC software to work flawlessly (including scanning)
on a Palm 3C.
1. apart from the normal crossover connections ie 2 and 3, you also
have to crossover 4 and 6, that's DTR and DSR, and 7 and 8 which
are
Post by Bob Warriner
the handshaking pair RTS and CTS, this is assuming you are using a
DB9 to DB9 cable, if you are using an ordinary moulded type of null
modem cable, you will need to discard it and change it for one you
can dismantle in order to make all the necessary connections.
The scanning facility works very well, all you need to do is tap on
the software icon at the top of the screen, tap on scan, and then
tap on "set up scan" you can adjust everything as if you were using
Icom software on a PC.
I always had faith that this program had promise, I am delighted to
say it fulfills that promise with abundance.
Feel free to mail me if further help is required, and thanks to
those that took the trouble to answer my queries.
Now I am going to have a go with the Palm 130, I will post any info
as soon as possible.
Rgds Bob
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2005-07-04 18:10:16 UTC
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Program opens fine with a tap. Hitting "On" gets a five second
delay, and then a "System Error" window pops up:

SrmSend()
Communication with radio failed..Please check cables and power
commError=773

The On button has become Off, same message if you hit off. The serial
data window in IP1kc looks to show commands being sent, nothing
coming back.

This is with a Palm IIIxe, which has a "for real" RS232 port, AKAIK.
I know my Sony Clie will not work with it's fake serial port. The
Palm works fine with PCRPilot, which is such limited software as to
be a waste of time. I can grab a handheld scanner and do far more.

Dunno about the Pin 1 to 4 business, was rooting through my
electronics junk to find connectors to make up your adapter when it
occurred to me to pin check the RS null modem adapter. Need another
male 232 connector to do a cable, maybe next weekend. Pin 9 is
unused BTW.

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Bob, the only difference that I can see is the fact that the cable I made
up doesn't have pin 1 and 4 tied together, and that configuration works fine
for the Palm 3C, I still haven't managed to get the Palm M130 to work with
this set-up, which is a bit of a puzzle, but I am still working on that when
time allows.
Can you describe exactly what happens with your set-up? at what point does
it fail and what error messages do you receive.
Rgds Bob
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robtmc91320
2005-07-07 03:06:34 UTC
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Hey Guys, those of you that have this working, please check your
connection settings. PCRPilot does not seem to care, it always works.
Occurred to me that IP1kc may need to have the connection stuff set
manually. Settings are speed and flow control. Please check, this
might be it if the program does not set it on initialization.

Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Bob, the only difference that I can see is the fact that the cable I made
up doesn't have pin 1 and 4 tied together, and that configuration works fine
for the Palm 3C
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Bob Warriner
2005-07-07 05:33:19 UTC
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Hi all, I use a small utility called LDSerlib, it allows you to set the
communication parameters for your com port, this may be the answer for some
Palms, but the settings make no difference to the Palm 3C, I can set any
speed (within reason) and any handshake and it makes no difference to my
machine.
My settings, just for the record are: speed 57k6, bits 8, parity none,
Xon/Xoff unticked, Rts/Cts unticked.
I'm still trying to get a palm M130 to work!!!
Rgds Bob.
BTW Does anyone know if the serial port can be configured without using a
third party utility.


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To: <PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Re: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by robtmc91320
Hey Guys, those of you that have this working, please check your
connection settings. PCRPilot does not seem to care, it always works.
Occurred to me that IP1kc may need to have the connection stuff set
manually. Settings are speed and flow control. Please check, this
might be it if the program does not set it on initialization.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Bob, the only difference that I can see is the fact that the cable
I made
Post by Bob Warriner
up doesn't have pin 1 and 4 tied together, and that configuration
works fine
Post by Bob Warriner
for the Palm 3C
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F15839
2005-07-07 13:38:54 UTC
Permalink
Anybody use palm PDA usb (tungsten) ?
imaglitch
2005-07-14 17:50:14 UTC
Permalink
Will this application work with a ZIRE 71?

What kind of cabling do I need?
Is there somewhere I can download a diagram of the pinout to make up
a cable?
de NW3N
Post by robtmc91320
Hey Guys, those of you that have this working, please check your
connection settings. PCRPilot does not seem to care, it always works.
Occurred to me that IP1kc may need to have the connection stuff set
manually. Settings are speed and flow control. Please check,
this
Post by robtmc91320
might be it if the program does not set it on initialization.
Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi Bob, the only difference that I can see is the fact that the
cable
Post by robtmc91320
I made
Post by Bob Warriner
up doesn't have pin 1 and 4 tied together, and that
configuration
Post by robtmc91320
works fine
Post by Bob Warriner
for the Palm 3C
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John Leonardelli
2005-06-20 17:18:12 UTC
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Sent: June 20, 2005 9:07 AM
To: PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [PCR1000] Digest Number 954


There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
From: "Bob Warriner" <Bob-2jGL8Z9G74ulfX6TRuFcWb0Ud+***@public.gmane.org>
2. RE: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
From: F15839 <F15839-***@public.gmane.org>

Hello Bob

I have 2 older palm pilots ...the IIIe and the IIIxe and they work fine with
the PCR-100. You do need a null modem adapter between the hotsync cable and
the rs2332 cable from the radio




Palm Pilot.....Palm standard hotsync cable db-9.............null modem
adapter 9 pin...........rs232 pcr 100 cable..pCR-100 radio

John Ve3IPS
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:15:47 -0000
From: "Bob Warriner" <Bob-2jGL8Z9G74ulfX6TRuFcWb0Ud+***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000

Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:35:29 +0200
From: F15839 <F15839-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: RE: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000

Savez vous si IP1Kc à le drivers pour le convertisseur db9/usb intégré ?



Merci





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Bob Warriner
Envoyé : dimanche 19 juin 2005 21:16
À : PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org
Objet : [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000



Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob





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Bob Warriner
2005-06-20 20:05:32 UTC
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Hi John, thanks for your response, I have tried most of what you
suggest, but have one or two ideas about the configuration of the
serial port.
Some members of this group have said in the past that they managed
to get the software working, but without the scanning function.
I have since learned that the port has to be configured correctly
for the scanning to operate, even though the rest of the software is
working normally, so there appears to be a lot more to this than
meets the eye, are there any "C" programmers out there? have a look
at the source code and tell the group how the software configures
the serial port, that would put quite a few of us out of our
misery :-).
Rgds Bob
Post by John Leonardelli
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Sent: June 20, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: [PCR1000] Digest Number 954
There are 2 messages in this issue.
1. Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
2. RE: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Hello Bob
I have 2 older palm pilots ...the IIIe and the IIIxe and they work fine with
the PCR-100. You do need a null modem adapter between the hotsync cable and
the rs2332 cable from the radio
Palm Pilot.....Palm standard hotsync cable db-9.............null modem
adapter 9 pin...........rs232 pcr 100 cable..pCR-100 radio
John Ve3IPS
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Post by John Leonardelli
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:15:47 -0000
Subject: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a
straight
Post by John Leonardelli
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has
failed,
Post by John Leonardelli
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C
works
Post by John Leonardelli
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth
developing
Post by John Leonardelli
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great
father's
Post by John Leonardelli
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob
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Post by John Leonardelli
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:35:29 +0200
Subject: RE: Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Savez vous si IP1Kc à le drivers pour le convertisseur db9/usb intégré ?
Merci
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Post by John Leonardelli
Bob Warriner
Envoyé : dimanche 19 juin 2005 21:16
Objet : [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a
straight
Post by John Leonardelli
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has
failed,
Post by John Leonardelli
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C
works
Post by John Leonardelli
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth
developing
Post by John Leonardelli
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great
father's
Post by John Leonardelli
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob
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Thomas McDaniel
2005-06-20 18:49:23 UTC
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Hi Bob,

I haven't used it yet but the Uni_Trac satellite tracking controller is
supposed to work with the PCR1000 -- but, according to the manual, you must
tie pins 7 and 8 (CTS/RTS) together on the connector that plugs into the
PCR1000.

I don't know if this will help you -- just a shot in the dark.

73 Tom n0ntx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Warriner" <Bob-2jGL8Z9G74ulfX6TRuFcWb0Ud+***@public.gmane.org>
To: <PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:15 PM
Subject: [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob
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Bob Warriner
2005-06-20 19:50:58 UTC
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Thanks for that Tom, I will give it a try, and report back .
Rgds Bob
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To: <PCR1000-***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by Thomas McDaniel
Hi Bob,
I haven't used it yet but the Uni_Trac satellite tracking controller is
supposed to work with the PCR1000 -- but, according to the manual, you must
tie pins 7 and 8 (CTS/RTS) together on the connector that plugs into the
PCR1000.
I don't know if this will help you -- just a shot in the dark.
73 Tom n0ntx
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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:15 PM
Subject: [PCR1000] Palm PDA & IP1kC Software for PCR1000
Post by Bob Warriner
Hello to the group.
Has ANYONE managed to install IP1kC software and get it working, and
if so, what serial configeration did they use, I have a Palm3C and a
palm M130, and I can't get either of them to work, the program
installs fine but with a serial port problem. I have used a straight
through connection and a null modem gender changer and I still get
the same error message ie: communication with the radio has failed,
does the software require handshaking of some sort? PCRpilot3C works
fine.
I have checked the service manual for the PCR1000 and found that the
handshaking connections seem to be used, ie:CTS/RDS are connected to
the DS14C232TM chip but does this software use them, it appears to
be something of a mystery, I have heard that some members of this
group has managed to get the software working, I would really like
some help from them, if they have time to respond.
Why the IP1kC software appears to be so complicated to set up is a
pity as it obviously is quite comprehensive and is worth developing
further (simpler scanning routine etc).
Hope someone can put me out of my misery, it's been a great father's
day, but it could be better :-).
Rgds Bob
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2005-06-24 00:30:30 UTC
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Where did you get this particular program, is it shareware, postal ware, free ware? Is there source code available ? I have the PCR1K for Palm and it runs quite well on my HandEra...(no color screen tho...boo...)
David






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2005-06-24 05:11:47 UTC
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Hi David, The program you are after is called IP1kC and is available
at WWW.Geocities.com/jjintokyo
It is a fully comprehensive controller for the Icom PCR1000/PCR100 and
works very well once the correct connections are made to the receiver.
Rgds Bob
Post by a***@public.gmane.org
Where did you get this particular program, is it shareware, postal
ware, free ware? Is there source code available ? I have the PCR1K for
Palm and it runs quite well on my HandEra...(no color screen
tho...boo...)
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Bob Warriner
2005-06-24 05:31:18 UTC
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Sorry David, I didn't answer your questions fully, as far as I know
it is Shareware (but deserves financial contributions, if only JJ
would respond to e-mails).
There are programs around that would allow you to look at the
program in Hex and Binary etc, but I think you would need permission
from the author to edit it!.
Rgds Bob
Post by Bob Warriner
Hi David, The program you are after is called IP1kC and is
available
Post by Bob Warriner
at WWW.Geocities.com/jjintokyo
It is a fully comprehensive controller for the Icom PCR1000/PCR100 and
works very well once the correct connections are made to the
receiver.
Post by Bob Warriner
Rgds Bob
Post by a***@public.gmane.org
Where did you get this particular program, is it shareware,
postal
Post by Bob Warriner
ware, free ware? Is there source code available ? I have the PCR1K for
Palm and it runs quite well on my HandEra...(no color screen
tho...boo...)
Post by a***@public.gmane.org
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a***@public.gmane.org
2005-06-25 02:16:18 UTC
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Thank you Bob, I'll grab the program...although I hate the Geocities sponsored web pages...too many pop ups and tracking cookies...grrrr...
I use my PCR 1K at work on the HandEra, with a battery eliminator...(the program eats batteries like there's no tomorrow...). And it does do quite well: I maintain communications recievers and transmitters in the lab and on occasion, have to shut down the errant engineer that wants to reprogram a transmitter out of band...(we were issued an experimental license by the FCC and NO, we don't need to lose those frequencies due to a monumental screw up...).
I'll eventually spring out some $$ for a color screen PDA sometime soon...the eyes are a bit weary after looking at SMT components all day...
Dave
-------------- Original message --------------
Hi David, The program you are after is called IP1kC and is available
at WWW.Geocities.com/jjintokyo
It is a fully comprehensive controller for the Icom PCR1000/PCR100 and
works very well once the correct connections are made to the receiver.
Rgds Bob
Post by a***@public.gmane.org
Where did you get this particular program, is it shareware, postal
ware, free ware? Is there source code available ? I have the PCR1K for
Palm and it runs quite well on my HandEra...(no color screen
tho...boo...)
Post by a***@public.gmane.org
David
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